{"id":8366,"date":"2023-07-26T00:09:54","date_gmt":"2023-07-26T00:09:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/?p=8366"},"modified":"2024-08-06T00:12:12","modified_gmt":"2024-08-06T00:12:12","slug":"who-was-john-the-baptist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/who-was-john-the-baptist\/","title":{"rendered":"Who Was John the Baptist? The Untold Story"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" style=\"--fontSize: 42;\">Who Was John the Baptist? (The Untold Story)<\/h2>\n<p>    <span><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"\" data-id=\"9575\" data-init-width=\"450\" data-init-height=\"600\" title=\"Joshua Schachterle\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Joshua-Schachterle-Bart-Ehrman-Author-1-1.png\" data-width=\"218\" style=\"aspect-ratio: auto 450 \/ 600;\" width=\"218\" height=\"290\" data-height=\"290\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"\">Written by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/author\/marko\/\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"outline: none;\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/author\/joshua-schachterle\/\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"outline: none;\" rel=\"noopener\">Joshua Schachterle, Ph.D<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Author | &nbsp;Professor | Scholar<\/p>\n<p>Author | &nbsp;Professor | BE Contributor<\/p>\n<p style=\"\">Verified! &nbsp;See our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/editorial-guidelines\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"outline: none;\" rel=\"noopener\">editorial guidelines<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"\">Verified! &nbsp;See our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/editorial-guidelines\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"outline: none;\" rel=\"noopener\">guidelines<\/a><\/p>\n\nDate written: July 26th, 2023\n<p style=\"\">\nDate written: July 26th, 2023<\/p>\n<p style=\"\">Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this article belong to the author and do not necessarily match my own. &#8211; Dr. Bart D. Ehrman<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019ve read the Gospels, you know John the Baptist.<\/p>\n<p><strong>According to the Gospels, God sent him to announce Jesus\u2019 ministry. He baptizes Jesus, which prompts a heavenly voice to proclaim Jesus as the Son of God.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>But there&#8217;s a lot more to the story.<\/p>\n<p>And in this article, I&#8217;ll be answering the following intriguing questions:\u00a0<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Why would John baptize a spriritually &#8220;superior&#8221; Jesus?\u00a0 Shouldn&#8217;t it have been the other way around?<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>How likely is John&#8217;s strange birth narrative to be historical?<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>Why was John killed?<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>What sources do we have for John&#8217;s life outside of the Gospels?<\/em><\/li>\n<li><em>And how is it that long after his death, John the Baptist&#8217;s disciples continued his ministry?\u00a0 Shouldn&#8217;t they have followed Jesus instead?<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In short, I want to uncover the <strong>lesser-known story<\/strong> about the historical John the Baptist&#8217;s birth, ministry, relationship with Jesus, and his death.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Who Was John the Baptist?\" data-id=\"8385\" width=\"697\" data-init-width=\"1920\" height=\"290\" data-init-height=\"800\" title=\"Who Was John the Baptist?\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Who-Was-John-the-Baptist-Bart-Ehrman-.png\" data-width=\"697\" style=\"aspect-ratio: auto 1920 \/ 800;\" data-height=\"290\"><\/span><\/p>\n<h2 data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" style=\"--fontSize: 42; line-height: 1.4;\">John the Baptist\u2019s Story Starts with a Mysterious Birth<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Gospels view John the Baptist as a catalyst for beginning\u00a0 Jesus\u2019 ministry. But John was apparently in the wilderness before Jesus arrived. <strong>Why was he there, and what was he doing?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/did-matthew-mark-luke-john-write-the-gospels\/\">Luke is the only Gospel to mention John\u2019s birth.<\/a> This was the story where, a<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ccording to Chapter One, an angel appeared to Zechariah, a priest, and announced that he would have a son named John, who would play a significant role in preparing the way for the Messiah.\u00a0 John the Baptist&#8217;s birth story is also responsible for the tradition that Jesus and John are cousins although the gospel does not explicitly state that.\u00a0 Instead, it indicates that John&#8217;s mother, Elizabeth, and Mary, the mother of Jesus, were relatives. The exact nature of their relationship is not specified.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, most scholars agree that Luke\u2019s version is <strong>not a great basis for a historical reconstruction of John the Baptist\u2019s life.<\/strong> The same is true of Luke\u2019s claim that John and Jesus were related. In fact, it\u2019s almost impossible to know the actual date of John the Baptist\u2019s birth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nevertheless, it is clear that John was a contemporary of Jesus, possibly an older contemporary since his ministry started first. Scholar<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/uscpress.com\/John-the-Baptist-in-History-and-Theology\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Joel Marcus<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> says that the fact that John the Baptist baptizes Jesus indicates something interesting: <em>Jesus was likely a follower of John the Baptist before beginning his ministry.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This possibility gives the Gospel writers a problem. If Jesus was superior to John, why did John baptize him and not the other way around? <strong>In Matthew 3:14-15, John protests, saying that Jesus should be baptizing him.<\/strong> Jesus explains that John should baptize him to \u201cfulfill all righteousness.\u201d I\u2019ll say more about where John baptized Jesus <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/where-was-jesus-baptized\/\">in another post.<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><em>By the way, if you\u2019re interested in learning more about the Gospels, join a<a href=\"https:\/\/ehrman.thrivecart.com\/unknown-gospels\/\"> free 50-minute webinar with Bart<\/a> discussing the authorship of Matthew, Mark, Luke &amp; John.<\/em><\/p>\n<h3 data-fontsize=\"30\" data-lineheight=\"42px\" style=\"--fontSize: 30; line-height: 1.4;\">What Did John the Baptist Do? What Was His Ministry All About?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Matthew and Luke also give us a good sampling of John\u2019s preaching (3:7-12). In one scene, John speaks passionately about the coming end of the world. He says that all who are not righteous will be burned \u201cwith unquenchable fire\u201d (3:12). <strong>Hence, John the Baptist must have been an apocalyptic prophet.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In 1<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">st<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> century Palestine, where John the Baptist lived, apocalyptic worldviews were increasingly common. The main thrust of these views was that the world had been corrupted by sin. Therefore, God would soon intervene to punish the wicked and reward those who had been righteously faithful. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/when-were-the-gospels-written\/\">This is clear in John the Baptist\u2019s preaching in the Gospels.\u00a0<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><em>But how can one become righteous enough to escape God\u2019s wrath?<\/em> This is where baptism comes in. The Gospels say that John\u2019s baptism was to show repentance and have one\u2019s sins forgiven (Luke 3:3).<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" style=\"--fontSize: 42; line-height: 1.4;\">An Intriguing Possibility: Who Baptized John the Baptist?<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><em>John the Baptist was an apocalyptic preacher for whom baptism was a central practice.<\/em> Therefore, some scholars speculate that he might once have been a member of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.loc.gov\/exhibits\/scrolls\/late.html\">Qumran community.<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The people of the Qumran community are often identified as the Essenes. They were a group of Jewish separatists who chose to live in caves in a region between Jerusalem and the Dead Sea. They believed that much of the Judaism of their time was corrupt. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Consequently, they sought to practice their religion as strictly and correctly as possible. To this end, they practiced ritual bathing. <strong>Moreover, they believed in a final battle between good and evil in which God would triumph.<\/strong> Sounds familiar, right?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There is, of course, no way to be certain about John\u2019s involvement with this community. It is an intriguing possibility, however. If true, it might answer a fundamental question: who baptized John the Baptist?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"\">NOW AVAILABLE FREE!<\/p>\n<p style=\"\"><strong>Did Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John Actually Write Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"\">The New Testament Gospels are anonymous. So why did early Christians say they were written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John? And what&#8217;s the evidence that they actually did?<\/p>\n<p> __CONFIG_colors_palette__{&#8220;active_palette&#8221;:0,&#8221;config&#8221;:{&#8220;colors&#8221;:{&#8220;62516&#8221;:{&#8220;name&#8221;:&#8221;Main Accent&#8221;,&#8221;parent&#8221;:-1}},&#8221;gradients&#8221;:[]},&#8221;palettes&#8221;:[{&#8220;name&#8221;:&#8221;Default Palette&#8221;,&#8221;value&#8221;:{&#8220;colors&#8221;:{&#8220;62516&#8221;:{&#8220;val&#8221;:&#8221;rgb(255, 133, 34)&#8221;,&#8221;hsl&#8221;:{&#8220;h&#8221;:26,&#8221;s&#8221;:0.99,&#8221;l&#8221;:0.5667}}},&#8221;gradients&#8221;:[]}}]}__CONFIG_colors_palette__ <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/did-matthew-mark-luke-john-write-the-gospels\/\" style=\"\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span>  <\/span> <span><span style=\"\"><strong>GET THE FREE WEBINAR<\/strong><\/span><\/span> <\/a> <span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/did-matthew-mark-luke-john-write-the-gospels\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Did Matthew Mark Luke and John Write the Gospels\" data-id=\"4615\" data-init-width=\"1920\" data-init-height=\"1080\" title=\"Did Matthew Mark Luke and John Write the Gospels\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Did-Matthew-Mark-Luke-and-John-Write-the-Gospels.png\" data-width=\"300\" data-height=\"169\" data-link-wrap=\"true\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" style=\"aspect-ratio: auto 1920 \/ 1080;\"><\/a><\/span> <\/p>\n<h3 data-fontsize=\"30\" data-lineheight=\"42px\" style=\"--fontSize: 30; line-height: 1.4;\">Another Source for John the Baptist\u2019s Story<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So far, we\u2019ve only spoken about John the Baptist\u2019s story as told in the four Gospels. However, there is another source from which we can draw.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><em>Flavius Josephus was a Jewish author who wrote several influential historical works.<\/em> He writes about both Jesus and John the Baptist. Like the Gospel writers, however, Flavius Josephus writes about them several decades after their deaths. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Josephus does not mention any connection between Jesus and John the Baptist.<\/strong> He either doesn\u2019t know about it or doesn\u2019t find it significant.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In his book<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.loebclassics.com\/view\/LCL433\/1965\/volume.xml\"> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Jewish Antiquities<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, he writes about John\u2019s preaching. John \u201ccommanded the Jews to exercise virtue, righteousness towards one another, and piety towards God\u201d (18.117). This accords pretty well with Matthew\u2019s and Luke\u2019s descriptions. Where Josephus differs, though, is on the matter of John\u2019s death.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" style=\"--fontSize: 42; line-height: 1.4;\">How did John the Baptist Die?<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>Both the synoptic Gospels and Josephus say that a king named Herod Antipas killed John the Baptist.<\/strong> They differ, however, in the reasons for this killing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/the-synoptic-gospels\/\">In the synoptic Gospels<\/a>, Herod arrests John for a very specific reason. Herod has married Herodias, the wife of his brother Philip, and John denounces him for this. Herod arrests John for his impudence and is tricked into beheading him by Herodias.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Josephus agrees that Herod Antipas married his sister-in-law. However, he says John the Baptist was attracting such large crowds that Herod feared John might foment a rebellion. <em>He kills John, ultimately, for crowd control.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Josephus doesn\u2019t explicitly say <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/how-did-john-the-baptist-die\/\">how John was killed<\/a>. But since beheading was one of the more common methods of execution in 1<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">st<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> century Palestine, this is plausible.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Herod Antipas was a client king. This means that he only ruled with the permission of the Romans. Since Rome executed rabble-rousers like Jesus, <strong>most scholars agree that Josephus\u2019 story makes historical sense.\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"How old was John the Baptist when he died\" data-id=\"8388\" width=\"697\" data-init-width=\"1920\" height=\"290\" data-init-height=\"800\" title=\"How old was John the Baptist when he died\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/How-old-was-John-the-Baptist-when-he-died.png\" data-width=\"697\" style=\"aspect-ratio: auto 1920 \/ 800;\" data-height=\"290\"><\/span><\/p>\n<h3 data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" style=\"--fontSize: 42; line-height: 1.4;\">Did John the Baptist Die Before Jesus? When Did John the Baptist die?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We can assume that John died before Jesus, following our sources. Scholarly consensus says that Jesus died between 30 and 33 CE. <strong>That would put John the Baptist\u2019s death in the late 20s CE, according to Joel Marcus.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How old was John the Baptist when he died? We can\u2019t know for certain. Nevertheless, if we again assume that John was a bit older than Jesus, <em>we can speculate that he may have been somewhere around 30 when he died.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<h3 data-fontsize=\"30\" data-lineheight=\"42px\" style=\"--fontSize: 30; line-height: 1.4;\">John the Baptists&#8217; Disciples<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Surprisingly, the final chapter of John the Baptist\u2019s story continues long after his death. It seems that John\u2019s death did not stop his followers from continuing his legacy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In Acts 19:1-7, Paul meets some disciples of John the Baptist. <em>This was over a decade after Jesus\u2019 death, so John had been dead even longer.<\/em> Nonetheless, Acts indicates that people were still following the baptismal rituals taught by John.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In addition, an early Christian document, the Pseudo-Clementine Recognitions, speaks about followers of John the Baptist centuries after John\u2019s death. <strong>These disciples of John claimed that he, not Jesus was the Messiah.<\/strong> Clearly, John had an enormous influence that long outlived him.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"\"><strong>Scholarly Insights: The Curious Following of John the Baptist<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgba(71, 72, 73, 0.8) !important; --tcb-applied-color: rgba(71, 72, 73, 0.8) !important;\"><em>According to the Gospels, John the Baptist purpose was to announce the coming of Jesus, &#8220;the straps of whose sandals am I am not worthy to untie.&#8221; &nbsp;Additionally, the Gospels claim that after Jesus&#8217; baptism, God proclaimed from the sky that Jesus was his Son. &nbsp;John the Baptist is also on record telling Jesus &#8220;It is I who should be baptized by you.&#8221; &nbsp;If the voice really came from heaven and John really recognized that Jesus was the Son of God, it seems strange, then, that he sent messengers in Matthew 11 and Luke 7 to ask Jesus, &#8220;Are you the one who was to come, or should we expect someone else?&#8221; &nbsp;<strong>Wouldn&#8217;t it be clear to him by then? &nbsp;<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: rgba(71, 72, 73, 0.8) !important; --tcb-applied-color: rgba(71, 72, 73, 0.8) !important;\">\n<p style=\"color: rgba(71, 72, 73, 0.8) !important; --tcb-applied-color: rgba(71, 72, 73, 0.8) !important;\"><em>It&#8217;s also curious that John&#8217;s disciples remained loyal to John&#8217;s teaching and ministry after the events of the baptism. &nbsp;Many scholars,&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/ehrmanblog.org\/the-baptism-of-jesus-as-an-apocalyptic-event\/\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"outline: none;\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>including Bart Ehrman<\/em><\/a><em>, believe that <strong>Jesus was actually a disciple of John&#8217;s.<\/strong> &nbsp;The baptism itself &nbsp;was probably historically insignificant but by the time the Gospel writers recounted the story, they had either inherited &#8211; or they invented &#8211; the voice from heaven and dialogue between Jesus and John which made Jesus out to be the superior individual rather than &#8220;just&#8221; a disciple of John. &nbsp;This best explains the fact that John the Baptist had followers long after his death.<\/em><\/p>\n<h2 data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" style=\"--fontSize: 42; line-height: 1.4;\">Related Articles<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/did-john-the-baptist-write-any-books-in-the-bible\/\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"outline: none;\" rel=\"noopener\">Did John the Baptist Write Any Books in the Bible?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/john-the-baptist-was-a-nazarite\/\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"outline: none;\" rel=\"noopener\">John the Baptist Was a Nazarite? <\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/who-is-saint-john-the-baptist\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Who is Saint John the Baptist and When is the St John the Baptist Feast<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/was-john-the-baptist-elijah\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Was John the Baptist Elijah?<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" style=\"--fontSize: 42; line-height: 1.4;\">Conclusion: What Can we Know about John the Baptist?<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><strong>John the Baptist was a contemporary of Jesus of Nazareth.<\/strong> He may have been a community member at Qumran before striking out on his own. His community of followers <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/where-was-jesus-baptized\/\">likely included Jesus, whom he baptized.<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He was quite popular in Palestine. His brand of apocalypticism resonated with the people living under the yoke of Roman rule. <em>The client king, Herod Antipas, killed him, likely because his popularity posed the threat of large-scale rebellion<\/em>. Nevertheless, after his death, his community continued for centuries.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>[tqb_quiz id=&#8217;11973&#8242;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Who Was John the Baptist? (The Untold Story) Written by Joshua Schachterle, Ph.D Author | &nbsp;Professor | Scholar Author | &nbsp;Professor | BE Contributor Verified! &nbsp;See our editorial guidelines Verified! &nbsp;See our guidelines Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this article belong to the author and do not necessarily match my own. &#8211; Dr. [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10,"featured_media":8385,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","tve_updated_post":"<div class=\"tcb-clear\" data-css=\"tve-u-64ad64c9c184b6\"><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv-button thrv-button-v2 tcb-local-vars-root\" data-css=\"tve-u-64ad64c9c18564\" style=\"\">\n\t<div class=\"thrive-colors-palette-config\" style=\"display: none !important\">__CONFIG_colors_palette__{\"active_palette\":0,\"config\":{\"colors\":{\"62516\":{\"name\":\"Main Accent\",\"parent\":-1}},\"gradients\":[]},\"palettes\":[{\"name\":\"Default Palette\",\"value\":{\"colors\":{\"62516\":{\"val\":\"var(--tcb-skin-color-0)\"}},\"gradients\":[]}}]}__CONFIG_colors_palette__<\/div>\n\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/category\/gospels\/\" class=\"tcb-button-link tcb-plain-text\" style=\"\" target=\"_blank\">\n\t\t<span class=\"tcb-button-texts\"><span class=\"tcb-button-text thrv-inline-text\" style=\"\" data-css=\"tve-u-64ad64c9c18573\">Gospels<\/span><\/span>\n\t<\/a>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\" id=\"article-title\"><h2 class=\"fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" data-css=\"tve-u-64ad64c9c18587\" style=\"--fontSize: 42;\">Who Was John the Baptist? (The Untold Story)<\/h2><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_symbol thrive-shortcode thrv_symbol_9261\" data-shortcode=\"thrive_symbol\" data-id=\"9261\" data-selector=\".thrv_symbol_9261\"><div class=\"thrive-shortcode-config\" style=\"display: none !important\">__CONFIG_post_symbol__{\"id\":\"9261\"}__CONFIG_post_symbol__<\/div><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\"><p style=\"\" data-css=\"tve-u-64ad64c9c186c5\">Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this article belong to the author and do not necessarily match my own. - Dr. Bart D. Ehrman<\/p><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper tve_wp_shortcode\" data-css=\"tve-u-1912507ba5d\" style=\"\"><div class=\"tve_shortcode_raw\" style=\"display: none\">___TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW__&lt;p&gt;If you\u2019ve read the Gospels, you know John the Baptist.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;According to the Gospels, God sent him to announce Jesus\u2019 ministry. He baptizes Jesus, which prompts a heavenly voice to proclaim Jesus as the Son of God.&lt;\/strong&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But there's a lot more to the story.&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And in this article, I'll be answering the following intriguing questions:&nbsp;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;Why would John baptize a spriritually \"superior\" Jesus?&nbsp; Shouldn't it have been the other way around?&lt;\/em&gt;&lt;\/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;How likely is John's strange birth narrative to be historical?&lt;\/em&gt;&lt;\/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;Why was John killed?&lt;\/em&gt;&lt;\/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;What sources do we have for John's life outside of the Gospels?&lt;\/em&gt;&lt;\/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;em&gt;And how is it that long after his death, John the Baptist's disciples continued his ministry?&nbsp; Shouldn't they have followed Jesus instead?&lt;\/em&gt;&lt;\/li&gt;&lt;\/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;In short, I want to uncover the &lt;strong&gt;lesser-known story&lt;\/strong&gt; about the historical John the Baptist's birth, ministry, relationship with Jesus, and his death.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;__TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW___<\/div><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper tve_image_caption\" data-css=\"tve-u-64ad64c9c186d5\" data-type=\"\"><span class=\"tve_image_frame\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"tve_image tcb-moved-image wp-image-8385\" alt=\"Who Was John the Baptist?\" data-id=\"8385\" width=\"697\" data-init-width=\"1920\" height=\"290\" data-init-height=\"800\" title=\"Who Was John the Baptist?\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Who-Was-John-the-Baptist-Bart-Ehrman-.png\" data-width=\"697\" style=\"aspect-ratio: auto 1920 \/ 800;\" data-css=\"tve-u-64ad64c9c186e7\" data-height=\"290\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\" data-css=\"tve-u-18e1d330e1a\" style=\"\"><h2 class=\"fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" style=\"--fontSize: 42; line-height: 1.4;\">John the Baptist\u2019s Story Starts with a Mysterious Birth<\/h2><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper tve_wp_shortcode\"><div class=\"tve_shortcode_raw\" style=\"display: none\">___TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW__&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;The Gospels view John the Baptist as a catalyst for beginning&nbsp; Jesus\u2019 ministry. But John was apparently in the wilderness before Jesus arrived. &lt;strong&gt;Why was he there, and what was he doing?&lt;\/strong&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;&lt;a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/did-matthew-mark-luke-john-write-the-gospels\/\"&gt;Luke is the only Gospel to mention John\u2019s birth.&lt;\/a&gt; This was the story where, a&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;ccording to Chapter One, an angel appeared to Zechariah, a priest, and announced that he would have a son named John, who would play a significant role in preparing the way for the Messiah.&nbsp; John the Baptist's birth story is also responsible for the tradition that Jesus and John are cousins although the gospel does not explicitly state that.&nbsp; Instead, it indicates that John's mother, Elizabeth, and Mary, the mother of Jesus, were relatives. The exact nature of their relationship is not specified.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;However, most scholars agree that Luke\u2019s version is &lt;strong&gt;not a great basis for a historical reconstruction of John the Baptist\u2019s life.&lt;\/strong&gt; The same is true of Luke\u2019s claim that John and Jesus were related. In fact, it\u2019s almost impossible to know the actual date of John the Baptist\u2019s birth.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;Nevertheless, it is clear that John was a contemporary of Jesus, possibly an older contemporary since his ministry started first. Scholar&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;a href=\"https:\/\/uscpress.com\/John-the-Baptist-in-History-and-Theology\"&gt; &lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;Joel Marcus&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/a&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt; says that the fact that John the Baptist baptizes Jesus indicates something interesting: &lt;em&gt;Jesus was likely a follower of John the Baptist before beginning his ministry.&lt;\/em&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;This possibility gives the Gospel writers a problem. If Jesus was superior to John, why did John baptize him and not the other way around? &lt;strong&gt;In Matthew 3:14-15, John protests, saying that Jesus should be baptizing him.&lt;\/strong&gt; Jesus explains that John should baptize him to \u201cfulfill all righteousness.\u201d I\u2019ll say more about where John baptized Jesus &lt;a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/where-was-jesus-baptized\/\"&gt;in another post.&lt;\/a&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;By the way, if you\u2019re interested in learning more about the Gospels, join a&lt;a href=\"https:\/\/ehrman.thrivecart.com\/unknown-gospels\/\"&gt; free 50-minute webinar with Bart&lt;\/a&gt; discussing the authorship of Matthew, Mark, Luke &amp;amp; John.&lt;\/em&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;__TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW___<\/div><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\" data-type=\"\" data-css=\"tve-u-1894820887f\"><h3 class=\"fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" data-fontsize=\"30\" data-lineheight=\"42px\" style=\"--fontSize: 30; line-height: 1.4;\">What Did John the Baptist Do? What Was His Ministry All About?<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper tve_wp_shortcode\" data-type=\"\" data-css=\"tve-u-1894820a3ef\"><div class=\"tve_shortcode_raw\" style=\"display: none\">___TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW__&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;Matthew and Luke also give us a good sampling of John\u2019s preaching (3:7-12). In one scene, John speaks passionately about the coming end of the world. He says that all who are not righteous will be burned \u201cwith unquenchable fire\u201d (3:12). &lt;strong&gt;Hence, John the Baptist must have been an apocalyptic prophet.&lt;\/strong&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;In 1&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;st&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt; century Palestine, where John the Baptist lived, apocalyptic worldviews were increasingly common. The main thrust of these views was that the world had been corrupted by sin. Therefore, God would soon intervene to punish the wicked and reward those who had been righteously faithful. &lt;a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/when-were-the-gospels-written\/\"&gt;This is clear in John the Baptist\u2019s preaching in the Gospels.&nbsp;&lt;\/a&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;&lt;em&gt;But how can one become righteous enough to escape God\u2019s wrath?&lt;\/em&gt; This is where baptism comes in. The Gospels say that John\u2019s baptism was to show repentance and have one\u2019s sins forgiven (Luke 3:3).&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;__TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW___<\/div><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\"><h2 class=\"fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" style=\"--fontSize: 42; line-height: 1.4;\">An Intriguing Possibility: Who Baptized John the Baptist?<\/h2><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper tve_wp_shortcode\"><div class=\"tve_shortcode_raw\" style=\"display: none\">___TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW__&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;&lt;em&gt;John the Baptist was an apocalyptic preacher for whom baptism was a central practice.&lt;\/em&gt; Therefore, some scholars speculate that he might once have been a member of the &lt;a href=\"https:\/\/www.loc.gov\/exhibits\/scrolls\/late.html\"&gt;Qumran community.&lt;\/a&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;The people of the Qumran community are often identified as the Essenes. They were a group of Jewish separatists who chose to live in caves in a region between Jerusalem and the Dead Sea. They believed that much of the Judaism of their time was corrupt. &lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;Consequently, they sought to practice their religion as strictly and correctly as possible. To this end, they practiced ritual bathing. &lt;strong&gt;Moreover, they believed in a final battle between good and evil in which God would triumph.&lt;\/strong&gt; Sounds familiar, right?&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;There is, of course, no way to be certain about John\u2019s involvement with this community. It is an intriguing possibility, however. If true, it might answer a fundamental question: who baptized John the Baptist?&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;__TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW___<\/div><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_symbol thrive-shortcode thrv_symbol_11699\" data-shortcode=\"thrive_symbol\" data-id=\"11699\" data-selector=\".thrv_symbol_11699\"><div class=\"thrive-shortcode-config\" style=\"display: none !important\">__CONFIG_post_symbol__{\"id\":\"11699\"}__CONFIG_post_symbol__<\/div><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\"><h3 class=\"fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" data-fontsize=\"30\" data-lineheight=\"42px\" style=\"--fontSize: 30; line-height: 1.4;\">Another Source for John the Baptist\u2019s Story<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper tve_wp_shortcode\"><div class=\"tve_shortcode_raw\" style=\"display: none\">___TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW__&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;So far, we\u2019ve only spoken about John the Baptist\u2019s story as told in the four Gospels. However, there is another source from which we can draw.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Flavius Josephus was a Jewish author who wrote several influential historical works.&lt;\/em&gt; He writes about both Jesus and John the Baptist. Like the Gospel writers, however, Flavius Josephus writes about them several decades after their deaths. &lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Josephus does not mention any connection between Jesus and John the Baptist.&lt;\/strong&gt; He either doesn\u2019t know about it or doesn\u2019t find it significant.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;In his book&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;a href=\"https:\/\/www.loebclassics.com\/view\/LCL433\/1965\/volume.xml\"&gt; &lt;i&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;The Jewish Antiquities&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/i&gt;&lt;\/a&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;, he writes about John\u2019s preaching. John \u201ccommanded the Jews to exercise virtue, righteousness towards one another, and piety towards God\u201d (18.117). This accords pretty well with Matthew\u2019s and Luke\u2019s descriptions. Where Josephus differs, though, is on the matter of John\u2019s death.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;__TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW___<\/div><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\" data-type=\"\" data-css=\"tve-u-18945914c32\"><h2 class=\"fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" style=\"--fontSize: 42; line-height: 1.4;\">How did John the Baptist Die?<\/h2><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper tve_wp_shortcode\" data-type=\"\" data-css=\"tve-u-1894591cd38\"><div class=\"tve_shortcode_raw\" style=\"display: none\">___TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW__&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Both the synoptic Gospels and Josephus say that a king named Herod Antipas killed John the Baptist.&lt;\/strong&gt; They differ, however, in the reasons for this killing.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;&lt;a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/the-synoptic-gospels\/\"&gt;In the synoptic Gospels&lt;\/a&gt;, Herod arrests John for a very specific reason. Herod has married Herodias, the wife of his brother Philip, and John denounces him for this. Herod arrests John for his impudence and is tricked into beheading him by Herodias.&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;Josephus agrees that Herod Antipas married his sister-in-law. However, he says John the Baptist was attracting such large crowds that Herod feared John might foment a rebellion. &lt;em&gt;He kills John, ultimately, for crowd control.&lt;\/em&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;Josephus doesn\u2019t explicitly say &lt;a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/how-did-john-the-baptist-die\/\"&gt;how John was killed&lt;\/a&gt;. But since beheading was one of the more common methods of execution in 1&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;st&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt; century Palestine, this is plausible.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;Herod Antipas was a client king. This means that he only ruled with the permission of the Romans. Since Rome executed rabble-rousers like Jesus, &lt;strong&gt;most scholars agree that Josephus\u2019 story makes historical sense.&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;\/strong&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;__TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW___<\/div><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper tve_image_caption\" data-css=\"tve-u-64ad64c9c187a9\" data-type=\"\"><span class=\"tve_image_frame\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"tve_image tcb-moved-image wp-image-8388\" alt=\"How old was John the Baptist when he died\" data-id=\"8388\" width=\"697\" data-init-width=\"1920\" height=\"290\" data-init-height=\"800\" title=\"How old was John the Baptist when he died\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/How-old-was-John-the-Baptist-when-he-died.png\" data-width=\"697\" style=\"aspect-ratio: auto 1920 \/ 800;\" data-css=\"tve-u-1894bbffc60\" data-height=\"290\"><\/span><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\" data-type=\"\" data-css=\"tve-u-64ad64c9c187c7\"><h3 class=\"fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" style=\"--fontSize: 42; line-height: 1.4;\">Did John the Baptist Die Before Jesus? When Did John the Baptist die?<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper tve_wp_shortcode\" data-type=\"\" data-css=\"tve-u-64ad64c9c187d1\"><div class=\"tve_shortcode_raw\" style=\"display: none\">___TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW__&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;We can assume that John died before Jesus, following our sources. Scholarly consensus says that Jesus died between 30 and 33 CE. &lt;strong&gt;That would put John the Baptist\u2019s death in the late 20s CE, according to Joel Marcus.&lt;\/strong&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;How old was John the Baptist when he died? We can\u2019t know for certain. Nevertheless, if we again assume that John was a bit older than Jesus, &lt;em&gt;we can speculate that he may have been somewhere around 30 when he died.&lt;\/em&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;__TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW___<\/div><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\" data-type=\"\" data-css=\"tve-u-18945a30653\"><h3 class=\"fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" data-fontsize=\"30\" data-lineheight=\"42px\" style=\"--fontSize: 30; line-height: 1.4;\">John the Baptists' Disciples<\/h3><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper tve_wp_shortcode\" data-type=\"\" data-css=\"tve-u-18945a34e20\"><div class=\"tve_shortcode_raw\" style=\"display: none\">___TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW__&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;Surprisingly, the final chapter of John the Baptist\u2019s story continues long after his death. It seems that John\u2019s death did not stop his followers from continuing his legacy.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;In Acts 19:1-7, Paul meets some disciples of John the Baptist. &lt;em&gt;This was over a decade after Jesus\u2019 death, so John had been dead even longer.&lt;\/em&gt; Nonetheless, Acts indicates that people were still following the baptismal rituals taught by John.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;&nbsp;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;In addition, an early Christian document, the Pseudo-Clementine Recognitions, speaks about followers of John the Baptist centuries after John\u2019s death. &lt;strong&gt;These disciples of John claimed that he, not Jesus was the Messiah.&lt;\/strong&gt; Clearly, John had an enormous influence that long outlived him.&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;__TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW___<\/div><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_contentbox_shortcode thrv-content-box tve-elem-default-pad\">\n\t<div class=\"tve-content-box-background\" style=\"\" data-css=\"tve-u-18e1cfef104\"><\/div>\n\t<div class=\"tve-cb\"><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv-columns\" style=\"--tcb-col-el-width: 657;\" data-css=\"tve-u-18e1cfef10a\"><div class=\"tcb-flex-row v-2 tcb-resized tcb--cols--2\" data-css=\"tve-u-18e1cfef10b\" style=\"\"><div class=\"tcb-flex-col\" data-css=\"tve-u-18e1cfef108\" style=\"\"><div class=\"tcb-col\"><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_icon tcb-icon-display tcb-local-vars-root\" data-css=\"tve-u-18e1cfef107\" style=\"\"><svg class=\"tcb-icon\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" data-id=\"icon-head-dots-horizontal-outlined\" data-name=\"\"><path d=\"M13 3C16.9 3 20 6.1 20 10C20 12.8 18.4 15.2 16 16.3V21H9V18H8C6.9 18 6 17.1 6 16V13H4.5C4.1 13 3.8 12.5 4.1 12.2L6 9.7C6.2 5.9 9.2 3 13 3M13 1C8.4 1 4.6 4.4 4.1 8.9L2.5 11C1.9 11.8 1.9 12.8 2.3 13.6C2.7 14.3 3.3 14.8 4 14.9V16C4 17.9 5.3 19.4 7 19.9V23H18V17.5C20.5 15.8 22 13.1 22 10C22 5 18 1 13 1M10 10C9.4 10 9 9.6 9 9S9.4 8 10 8 11 8.4 11 9 10.6 10 10 10M13 10C12.4 10 12 9.6 12 9S12.4 8 13 8 14 8.4 14 9 13.6 10 13 10M16 10C15.5 10 15 9.6 15 9S15.5 8 16 8 17 8.4 17 9 16.5 10 16 10Z\"><\/path><\/svg><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"tcb-flex-col\" data-css=\"tve-u-18e1cfef109\" style=\"\"><div class=\"tcb-col\"><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\"><p style=\"\" data-css=\"tve-u-18e1cfef10c\"><strong>Scholarly Insights: The Curious Following of John the Baptist<\/strong><\/p><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\"><p data-css=\"tve-u-18e1cfef105\" style=\"color: rgba(71, 72, 73, 0.8) !important; --tcb-applied-color: rgba(71, 72, 73, 0.8) !important;\"><em>According to the Gospels, John the Baptist purpose was to announce the coming of Jesus, \"the straps of whose sandals am I am not worthy to untie.\" &nbsp;Additionally, the Gospels claim that after Jesus' baptism, God proclaimed from the sky that Jesus was his Son. &nbsp;John the Baptist is also on record telling Jesus \"It is I who should be baptized by you.\" &nbsp;If the voice really came from heaven and John really recognized that Jesus was the Son of God, it seems strange, then, that he sent messengers in Matthew 11 and Luke 7 to ask Jesus, \"Are you the one who was to come, or should we expect someone else?\" &nbsp;<strong>Wouldn't it be clear to him by then? &nbsp;<\/strong><\/em><\/p><p data-css=\"tve-u-18e1cfef105\" style=\"color: rgba(71, 72, 73, 0.8) !important; --tcb-applied-color: rgba(71, 72, 73, 0.8) !important;\"><br><\/p><p data-css=\"tve-u-18e1cfef105\" style=\"color: rgba(71, 72, 73, 0.8) !important; --tcb-applied-color: rgba(71, 72, 73, 0.8) !important;\"><em>It's also curious that John's disciples remained loyal to John's teaching and ministry after the events of the baptism. &nbsp;Many scholars,&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/ehrmanblog.org\/the-baptism-of-jesus-as-an-apocalyptic-event\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" style=\"outline: none;\"><em>including Bart Ehrman<\/em><\/a><em>, believe that <strong>Jesus was actually a disciple of John's.<\/strong> &nbsp;The baptism itself &nbsp;was probably historically insignificant but by the time the Gospel writers recounted the story, they had either inherited - or they invented - the voice from heaven and dialogue between Jesus and John which made Jesus out to be the superior individual rather than \"just\" a disciple of John. &nbsp;This best explains the fact that John the Baptist had followers long after his death.<\/em><\/p><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\"><h2 class=\"fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" style=\"--fontSize: 42; line-height: 1.4;\">Related Articles<\/h2><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\"><ul class=\"\"><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/did-john-the-baptist-write-any-books-in-the-bible\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" style=\"outline: none;\">Did John the Baptist Write Any Books in the Bible?<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/john-the-baptist-was-a-nazarite\/\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" style=\"outline: none;\">John the Baptist Was a Nazarite? <\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/who-is-saint-john-the-baptist\/\" target=\"_blank\">Who is Saint John the Baptist and When is the St John the Baptist Feast<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/was-john-the-baptist-elijah\/\" target=\"_blank\">Was John the Baptist Elijah?<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper thrv_text_element\"><h2 class=\"fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" data-fontsize=\"42\" data-lineheight=\"58.8px\" style=\"--fontSize: 42; line-height: 1.4;\">Conclusion: What Can we Know about John the Baptist?<\/h2><\/div><div class=\"thrv_wrapper tve_wp_shortcode\"><div class=\"tve_shortcode_raw\" style=\"display: none\">___TVE_SHORTCODE_RAW__&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John the Baptist was a contemporary of Jesus of Nazareth.&lt;\/strong&gt; He may have been a community member at Qumran before striking out on his own. His community of followers &lt;a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartehrman.com\/where-was-jesus-baptized\/\"&gt;likely included Jesus, whom he baptized.&lt;\/a&gt;&lt;\/span&gt;&lt;\/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"&gt;He was quite popular in Palestine. His brand of apocalypticism resonated with the people living under the yoke of Roman rule. &lt;em&gt;The client king, Herod Antipas, killed him, likely because his popularity posed the threat of large-scale rebellion&lt;\/em&gt;. 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